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Guardian of the Light · Aug 19, 2007, 03:26 AM // 03:26

Ok before responding I decided to look up Paragon armor (both genders) in the wiki page: http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Paragon_armor

I also looked at the 'leaked' armor and it looks like things aren't changing.

There's nothing really wrong with armor but at the same time there's nothing wrong with choices. Every other profession has at least 1 'conservative' outfit (even the eles have Tyrian armor) and I don't see anything wrong with giving one for paragons.

So based on the sole fact that there isn't an alternative I'm gonna have to /sign this.

draxynnic · Aug 19, 2007, 03:42 AM // 03:42

Peoples, as I've been saying in the other thread, it's about CHOICE.

Asking for one or two armour sets that are a little more modest is not in any way a suggestion that the existing armours be censored or anything like that. Apart from the time for the art design team to make a new armour set or two, can any of you tell me one how your own play experience would be negatively impacted by this?

Yes, Paragons can be expected to be more lightly armoured than Warriors... but there are male Paragon sets that have full breastplates. Why can't there be some female ones as well?

God Apprentice · Aug 19, 2007, 03:47 AM // 03:47

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Originally Posted by Prof Of Black

Hehe, actually I like the current skin-armours xD
Also, if they start changing para female armour,
I recommend to change the male armour first..
A man with nipples? ew..

~Prof.

I agree though, it would be nice to see a more covering armor set.

AznDoDo · Aug 19, 2007, 04:02 AM // 04:02

I'll be quick about this. I agree with the OP's suggestion, simply have choices for a more "covered-up" female paragon be nice. But also respect that the current armor sets out there, are just simply ArenaNet's art design. I've played a MMORPG called Lineage 2, there's a race called the Dark Elves, both male and female ( tho female more so ) wear barely anything, and definitely not anything that resemble "realistic" armor. While those Dark Elves armor are far from being realistic, I think Lineage 2 has the best and most creative art direction with the armors/outfit/everything in any MMORPG, imho. I personally prefer fantasy-style design over realistic-design because despite what a previous poster said, I think it's promotes creativity.

My point is, yes choice is always good, but we as the "consumers", always will have unlimited demands/needs. If Arena Net do release a female paragon armor that is more 'covered', what if its "the ugliest armor ever" and everyone hates it? Then were gonna repeat ourselves.

NeonPink · Aug 19, 2007, 11:36 AM // 11:36

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Originally Posted by Prof Of Black

A man with nipples? ew..

N-N-N-Nu-Nu-Nu-Nu-Nu BAAAATMAAAAN!!

Johnny Madhouse · Aug 19, 2007, 06:31 PM // 18:31

It would be nice to see more modest armor, maybe something along the lines of leather with metal plates on it. Flexible, protective, and you know, modest for those players that like modesty.

The kilts rule, don't remove those, but I would like a cheap option for covering the midriff on my male para that isn't ugly. As is, the only options are Elonian (ugly) and Vabbian (hella expensive, and before everyone tells me how rich they are, please don't bother).

jesusrunz · Aug 19, 2007, 06:52 PM // 18:52

Paragon females are sexy rendered characters.

Graphik Desine · Aug 19, 2007, 07:46 PM // 19:46

i am female as well, BUT i do not support this argument. i think the woman character should instead flaunt what they were given as a symbol of female empowerment, as a way to entice the male characters into a false sense of satisfaction. i actually wouldnt mind seeing a little more leg, arm, and breast myself on any profession ^^

A11Eur0 · Aug 19, 2007, 08:07 PM // 20:07

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Originally Posted by Graphik Desine

i am female as well, BUT i do not support this argument. i think the woman character should instead flaunt what they were given as a symbol of female empowerment, as a way to entice the male characters into a false sense of satisfaction. i actually wouldnt mind seeing a little more leg, arm, and breast myself on any profession ^^

I KNOW I saw you post something about not liking all of the scantily clad female armors in this game...saying you chose male characters for that reason and to avoid the "creepy cyber whispers"?

Heimdallw32 · Aug 19, 2007, 09:00 PM // 21:00

While we're at it, why stop at Paragons? More variety for all classes.

Actually, let's not even stop there.

Fully user-customizable armor. Like in Neverwinter Nights, where you can choose between bunches of models for each armor section (left/right shoulders, forearms, upper arms, torso, neck, upper legs, lower legs, feet, waist, robe, etc). Problem solved.

ShadowsRequiem · Aug 19, 2007, 09:05 PM // 21:05

Skimpy armor doesnt bother me at all.... strange :P I'm a female who happens to like breasts lol..... so yah doesnt bother me at all :P

Graphik Desine · Aug 19, 2007, 09:29 PM // 21:29

A11Eur0 try quoting original material--original replies, for instance, before twisting sentences out of proportion and creating the illusion of fallacy.

two different ideas, two different views. the one quoted below was my own words, in response to BEHAVIORS, and a suggestion for the original poster, not views on clothing.....

in general, everyone is entitled to have different views on different topics. there is a difference between the way one may feel about [elementalist] behaviors that seem to weaken the power and intelligence a specific gender, thus making it more desirable to choose the opposite version (available by personal preference). as in the end, the person commanding the opposite-gender character in the game is irony in itself XD

supporting showing off the body for what it's worth as a symbol of power and confidence is different from not supporting showing off stereotypical mannerisms and visible lack of common sense. if the female paragon mannerisms reflected that of a "barbie," then i could see there would be less desire for a conservative female player to choose a female paragon as a permanent pve character. the paragon is a powerful, confident figure. why not reflect that confident image with matching clothing (or lack thereof :P)?

ggkthxbai

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Originally Posted by Graphik Desine

lolol. see, this is why i made my main characters male...to prevent running into any of these types of problems, especially the creepy cyber whispers :P

it might be too late for you now, gnome, but a good way to see if the characters you create are going to have revealing or even really NEAT armor---is by looking on the armor pages of fansites first, even though it may be a spoiler, it'll add a few years to all of our life exectancies XD

that's what i did with all my chars after i made my female ele...learned from mistakes ._.

Onarik Amrak · Aug 19, 2007, 09:43 PM // 21:43

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Originally Posted by rohara

what's wrong with this picture?

You didn't cover her face. Give her a burka! Jeeeeeez.

MithranArkanere · Aug 19, 2007, 10:27 PM // 22:27

They wear light but protectin gear to be able to toss quicklñy and effectively spears.

They armors are based in roman armors.
They worked for roman. They ruled an empire for quite a long time.

A11Eur0 · Aug 19, 2007, 10:53 PM // 22:53

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Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

They wear light but protectin gear to be able to toss quicklñy and effectively spears.

They armors are based in roman armors.
They worked for roman. They ruled an empire for quite a long time.

To play Devil's Advocate...since when did you hear of a female roman hoplite?

Athena is the only female soldier figure of that period that comes to mind, and she doesn't show midriff. Then again, some depictions of her show nothing at all.

Ember010 · Aug 19, 2007, 10:56 PM // 22:56

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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

Funnily enough, most men do, in fact, have nipples.

That made me lol. =]

/signed.

All classes should have a modest alternative, i mean fair play to the people who prefer to show off their toons body, but I am one who likes armour to suit my environment. For example my ranger is in the shiverpeaks, so she has her furry armour. Paragons would FREEZE in the shiverpeaks. poor souls.. :'(

MithranArkanere · Aug 19, 2007, 10:58 PM // 22:58

You have.

Remeber the ones with the nipples?
Those are the 'cold' ones.

A11Eur0 · Aug 19, 2007, 11:02 PM // 23:02

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Originally Posted by Ember010

That made me lol. =]

/signed.

All classes should have a modest alternative, i mean fair play to the people who prefer to show off their toons body, but I am one who likes armour to suit my environment. For example my ranger is in the shiverpeaks, so she has her furry armour. Paragons would FREEZE in the shiverpeaks. poor souls.. :'(

That would be accurate, if the Paragons were mere humans. You think Angels feel heat/cold?

Their armor is solely for ease of movement. I'll be damn sure that the developers and character designers of this game took all of this into account. That's why 80% of ele NF armor is revealing, but there's alot of armor in Prophecies and Factions that is modest...those campaigns have areas where you would need more insulation from the elements. Sure you have the option of Iceforged in Yak's bend...but who's to say that wearing iceforged armor doesn't give you some resistance to cold? Hell, the original hydromancer armor before insignias gave you defense against cold attacks...

genofreek · Aug 19, 2007, 11:36 PM // 23:36

Paragon armor fails it anyway. I get that they're something of an angelic centurion class, what with the wings and all, but PLEASE can I get some armor that isn't 90% white? (And would it be possible to kick in something for the guys that isn't a skirt?)

I care less about the fact that Immy's running around in a sparkly metal bra than I do about the fact that I can only make the trim pink.

Although I agree with OP that some full-body paragon armor would be nice. Even Ele girls have options to wear something that resembles protective covering. XD

MithranArkanere · Aug 20, 2007, 12:38 AM // 00:38

For the 'white' problem, they should give normal armos two dyable areas, and elite armors four.